1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,560 This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,160 Whenever possible, the actual family members and police 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,160 officials have participated in recreating the events. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,560 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,520 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,600 These outlaw legends were immortalized 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,960 by the movie starring Paul Newman and Robert Redford. 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,080 According to history, Butch and Sundance 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,800 were gunned down by soldiers in Bolivia. 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,160 But some experts now believe one of the famous bandits 11 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:39,840 escaped to the United States and lived out 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,640 his life as a prosperous Seattle businessman. 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,600 For nearly seven years, Cindy James 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,040 was a victim of more than 100 separate incidents 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,000 of harassment, including five violent physical attacks. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,640 Police suspected that Cindy staged the incidents herself. 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,880 Then in 1989, Cindy was found dead. 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,200 Her hands and feet bound behind her back. 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,360 On a desolate highway in Texas, two women and a young boy 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,760 had a bizarre encounter with an unidentified object. 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,840 Today, all three are plagued by mysterious illnesses, 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,440 whose symptoms began to appear that very night. 23 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:18,920 For every mystery, there is someone, 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,440 somewhere who knows the truth. 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,720 Perhaps that someone is watching. 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,600 Perhaps it's you. 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Join me. 28 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:20,160 The Body of the Blonde Woman was clothed in brown slacks of pink 29 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,040 blouse and shoes. 30 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,080 June 8, 1989, Richmond, a suburb of Vancouver, British 31 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,480 Columbia. 32 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,240 The evening news carries a report 33 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,200 that has become all too common, the discovery of a dead body, 34 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:38,320 in this case lying in the yard of an abandoned house. 35 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,880 The hands were behind her back, a strapped her feet, 36 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,840 tied to her feet with a rope or a cord. 37 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,960 The dead woman was 44-year-old pediatric nurse Cindy James. 38 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,120 She lived less than two miles from the spot 39 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,280 where her body was found. 40 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,480 For seven years, Cindy had been reporting 41 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,080 that she was a victim of more than 100 separate incidents 42 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,040 of harassment, five of them violent physical attacks. 43 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,840 The police first believed and disbelieved Cindy's stories. 44 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,760 However, Cindy's parents are convinced 45 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,320 that their daughter was murdered. 46 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,680 Cindy James graduated from nursing school in 1966. 47 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,040 Within a few years, she was named administrator 48 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,200 of a preschool for children with behavioral 49 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,200 and emotional disorders. 50 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,000 Cindy was married but never had children of her own. 51 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,080 In July of 1982, Cindy and her husband separated. 52 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,640 Four months later, the phone calls began. 53 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:37,640 Hello? 54 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,640 Who is this? 55 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,640 She said it was just a voice. 56 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,640 Sometimes it would change the sound, 57 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,640 and sometimes it was just whispering. 58 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,640 Sometimes it was just nothing, just silence. 59 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,640 As far as we know, she did not recognize the voice. 60 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,640 Of course, she did not recognize the voice. 61 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,640 She was a victim of a murder. 62 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,640 As far as we know, she did not recognize the voice. 63 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,640 Of course, I think we should add a qualifier there 64 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,320 that she was very, very reluctant to talk about this 65 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,160 right to the end. 66 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,320 And our feeling was that she was withholding something 67 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,440 extremely vital. 68 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,200 Cindy reported the threatening calls 69 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,760 to Vancouver police who began an investigation. 70 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,440 Over the next three months, she said 71 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,480 that the harassment escalated. 72 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,320 At night, she heard prowlers. 73 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,120 Her porch lights were smashed. 74 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,600 Her phone lines severed. 75 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:40,160 Bizarre cut and paced notes began to appear on her doorstep. 76 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,280 She told me many times that he wanted to scare her to death. 77 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:45,840 She said he doesn't want to kill me. 78 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:47,280 He wants to scare me to death. 79 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:54,440 On January 27, 1983, Agnes Woodcock 80 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,360 dropped by Cindy's house for a visit. 81 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,640 Cindy? 82 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,640 I went up and knocked on the door. 83 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:08,640 There was no answer. 84 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,640 I assumed she was having her bath. 85 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,640 She did every night. 86 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,640 And I thought I heard something. 87 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,640 I wasn't sure what it was. 88 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,640 Cindy, what happened? 89 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,640 I found her crunched down. 90 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,640 I thought she was going to be fine. 91 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,640 I thought she was going to be fine. 92 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,640 I found her crunched down with a nylon tied tightly around her. 93 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Oh, are you all right? 94 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,640 Cindy said she'd gone out to the garage to get a box. 95 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,640 And just as she got to the garage, 96 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,640 she turned and someone grabbed her from behind. 97 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,640 She said, and all she saw was white sneakers. 98 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,640 Cindy was thoroughly frightened. 99 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,640 She moved to a new house. 100 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Later, she painted her car and eventually 101 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,640 changed her last name. 102 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,640 The police continued their investigation 103 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,640 and questioned Cindy several times. 104 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,640 She wouldn't tell them the entire story. 105 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,640 She would be evasive. 106 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,640 She would withhold information. 107 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:20,640 And she simply would not act as a normal victim would act. 108 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,640 And I can see where a police officer would 109 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,640 have a tremendous amount of problem in believing her story. 110 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,640 Do you live in the city of Vancouver? 111 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Yes. 112 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,640 Cindy was asked to take a lie detector test. 113 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,640 The results were inconclusive. 114 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,640 Both times, the polygraph indicated 115 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,640 that she was withholding information. 116 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,640 On January 27, 1983, were you physically assaulted 117 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,640 outside your home? 118 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,640 Yes. 119 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,640 Cindy told me that after she was attacked, 120 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,640 the knife was held at her throat. 121 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,640 And she was told that if you talk, 122 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,640 your sister will be next and then your mother. 123 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:04,640 So just keep quiet. 124 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Don't tell anything. 125 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,640 On January 30, 1984, Ozzie Caban, 126 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,640 a private investigator hired by Cindy, 127 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,640 heard strange sounds coming over a two-way radio he had given her. 128 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,640 He went straight to Cindy's house. 129 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:41,640 I went around the house and the house was locked. 130 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,640 I was able to look into the house through a window, 131 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,640 and I found Cindy lying there. 132 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,640 101 to base, get me the police. 133 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,640 Cindy, Cindy, can you hear me? 134 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,640 I took a look at her and I thought she was dead. 135 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,640 There was a note that was pinned with a paring knife through her hand. 136 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,640 I went to the telephone, called 911. 137 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,640 I went in about two minutes, the medical people arrived, 138 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:19,640 and she revived briefly, and then they took her to the hospital. 139 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,640 When I interviewed Cindy, she told me that she noticed 140 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,640 a man coming through the gate. 141 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,640 The next thing she remembers is being hit on the side of head 142 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,640 with a piece of wood or something of that nature. 143 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,640 She then remembered being held down on the floor, 144 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,640 and she remembered a needle going into her arm. 145 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,640 Neil Hall of the Vancouver Sun has covered Cindy's case for two years. 146 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,640 One and a half million dollars that's been estimated, 147 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,640 police spent investigating Cindy James' complaints, 148 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,640 more than a hundred incidents, and they could never find a suspect. 149 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,640 They could never find a... 150 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,640 There was no sighting of a suspect, 151 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,640 there was never a fingerprint from a suspect, 152 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,640 there was no independent cooperation. 153 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,640 Cindy saw this person, or sometimes she said there was two, 154 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,640 sometimes three people going on year after year after year. 155 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,640 After one attack, 156 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,640 Royal Canadian Mounted Police tape recorded their questioning of Cindy. 157 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,640 This is an actual excerpt from that interview. 158 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,640 All the time we had, I don't know where he came from. 159 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,640 I don't know what I thought I was going to do, 160 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,640 but I was trying to push his knife over here something. 161 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,640 I don't think I would remember anything else. 162 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,640 There were times I would talk with her and I would say, 163 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,640 Cindy, please tell me what's going on. 164 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,640 And she'd say, I can't, mother, I can't. 165 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,640 I'd say, why not? 166 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,640 Because she says I'm afraid for you. 167 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,640 PHONE RINGS 168 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Hello? 169 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,640 The threatening phone calls continued, 170 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,640 but were too short to trace. 171 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,640 Why are you doing this to me? 172 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,640 Police began to formulate a disturbing theory, 173 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,640 and they believed Cindy might have been staging 174 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,640 the entire harassment campaign against herself. 175 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,640 They had 24-hour surveillance in our house for days on end, 176 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,640 with up to 14 officers. 177 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,640 But never, when surveillance was on our house, 178 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,640 never any event would happen. 179 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,640 As soon as surveillance was taken off, 180 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,640 of course then she'd get another incident that happened. 181 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,640 When the police were watching the house, 182 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,640 we would say to them, well, you know, 183 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,640 if it's somebody doing that, sure as heck he knows you're there. 184 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,640 And of course, nobody will do anything 185 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,640 while you're sitting there and watching. 186 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,640 On December 11th, 1985, Cindy was found 187 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,640 dazed and semi-conscious, lying in this ditch, 188 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,640 six miles from her home. 189 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,640 She was wearing a man's work boot and glove, 190 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,640 and suffering from hypothermia. 191 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,640 Cuts and abrasions covered her body. 192 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,640 Once again, a black nylon stocking had been tied 193 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,640 tightly around her neck. 194 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,640 Once again, Cindy said she had no memory of what happened. 195 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,640 The police became more and more convinced 196 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,640 that Cindy was somehow attacking herself. 197 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:26,640 The police did not investigate the possibility of homicide, 198 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,640 of somebody murdering her, 199 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,640 but zeroed in on trying to prove that she committed suicide. 200 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,640 And I'm very angry with the ineptitude, 201 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,640 the bungling by those who are responsible 202 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,640 to protect our citizens 203 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,640 and to do something about, first of all, 204 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,640 preventing a death like this, 205 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,640 and secondly, when it does occur, 206 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,640 not investigating it properly. 207 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,640 Knock, knock, knock. 208 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Agnes, wake up. 209 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,640 Several times, Cindy asked Agnes Woodcock 210 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,640 and her husband, Tom, to spend the night with her. 211 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,640 On one occasion, Cindy woke them well after midnight. 212 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,640 Cindy came running to the door and said, 213 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Tom, I heard a noise downstairs, and Tom, 214 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,640 he said, I heard it too. 215 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,640 It was like a loud thump. 216 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,640 Agnes and Tom went downstairs with Cindy. 217 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,640 The basement was in flames. 218 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,640 Cindy asked me to call the fire departments. 219 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,640 I ran to the phone, and the phone was dead. 220 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,640 So Tom went outside and called the neighbor 221 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,640 and asked if he would call the fire department. 222 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,640 And when he went out, there was a man standing on the curb, 223 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,640 and Tom asked him, and he ran away down the street. 224 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,640 The police suspected once again 225 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,640 that Cindy had staged the incident. 226 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Further questions. Thank you. 227 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,640 There was no duster fingerprints 228 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,640 disturbed on the outside of the window sill, 229 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,640 but somebody set the fires from inside the home, 230 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,640 and it had declined through that window. 231 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,640 Now, that should have been one sign 232 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,640 that people should have realized. 233 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,640 Also, she said she was out walking her dog 234 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,640 late at night that night. 235 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,640 Now, if somebody was attacked, 236 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,640 why would they go out alone walking their dog 237 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,640 at 3 o'clock in the morning? Does that make sense? 238 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,640 Finally, Cindy's doctor committed her 239 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,640 to a local psychiatric ward. 240 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,640 He fully believes Cindy's accounts of harassment, 241 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,640 but feared she was becoming suicidal. 242 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,640 I think one of the things that she found most difficult 243 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,640 was that people didn't believe her. 244 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,640 She was always doubted. 245 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,640 She knew she was doubted, 246 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,640 and that was what slowly drove her crazy, 247 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,640 the fact that she wasn't believed. 248 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,640 Ten weeks later, Cindy left the hospital. 249 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,640 She finally admitted to her family and friends 250 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,640 that she had been withholding information. 251 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,640 She told me for the first time 252 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,640 she was convinced who the perpetrator was, 253 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,640 and in her own words, 254 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,640 if the police can't solve this, I'll solve it for them. 255 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,640 She said, when it's all over, 256 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,640 I'll explain everything to you, but I can't tell you no. 257 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,640 On May 25th, 1989, 258 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,640 six years and seven months after the first threatening phone call, 259 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,640 Cindy James disappeared. 260 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,640 That same day, her car was found 261 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,640 in a neighborhood parking lot. 262 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,640 Inside were groceries and a wrap gift. 263 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,640 There was blood on the driver's side door 264 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,640 and items from Cindy's wallet were under the car. 265 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,640 Two weeks later, Cindy's body was found at the abandoned house. 266 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,640 Cindy James' death had all the earmarks 267 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,640 of a sadistic murder. 268 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,640 Her hands and feet were bound together behind her back. 269 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,640 A black nylon stocking was tied tightly around her neck. 270 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,640 Yet an autopsy would reveal that Cindy had died 271 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,640 from an overdose of morphine and other drugs. 272 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,640 Police believed Cindy had committed an elaborate suicide. 273 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,640 There is no way that she could have been able, 274 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,640 after ingesting that amount of drugs, 275 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,640 to tie herself up. 276 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,640 There was absolutely nothing at the crime scene 277 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,640 to indicate that she had used any form of syringe 278 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,640 or she had used any drinking device 279 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,640 or anything of that nature. 280 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,640 Morphine wouldn't have taken effect for, say, 15 minutes, half an hour. 281 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,640 The knot specialist who came in 282 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,640 and recreated the same type of knots 283 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,640 in the way she was tied up, it took them three minutes. 284 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,640 So basically, if she took the drugs at the same time, 285 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,640 she would have had about 15 minutes in order to tie herself up. 286 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,640 Cindy was the type of person, was a very proud person. 287 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,640 If she wanted to commit suicide, she would take her dog, 288 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,640 dress herself up properly, lay on the bed, 289 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,640 and that's how she would commit suicide. 290 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,640 Not the way she was found in that horrible place. 291 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,640 At the coroner's inquest, the theory was raised 292 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,640 that Cindy suffered from multiple personality disorder, 293 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,640 and that one of her personalities was trying to destroy the other. 294 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,640 There was no indication in all of the time that I saw her, 295 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,640 and I saw her not just in conversational states, 296 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,640 I saw her in deep hypnotic states as well. 297 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,640 There was never any evidence that there was another, 298 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,640 there are other personalities there, 299 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,640 so the psychiatrist that were speculating about that 300 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,640 were looking for an explanation for things that can't be explained 301 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,640 and who can argue against multiple personality disorder. 302 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,640 There was never any evidence whatsoever in our relations 303 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,640 with our daughter that there was anything but the personality that we knew, 304 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,640 and we saw her under many circumstances, many different times. 305 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,640 There's just no question that she was not mentally ill. 306 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,640 I think one of the defense mechanisms that people have is denial, 307 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,640 and I think it must be very hard for them to believe 308 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,640 that they were taken into the, drawn into this whole thing year after year after year, 309 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,640 and that it was all delusional. 310 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,640 And you can feel sympathy for the family and friends, 311 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,640 and colleagues were all close to her and trying to help her and protect her, 312 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,640 and they went through hell themselves. 313 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,640 If we could only find out what really happened, 314 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,640 I think it would be easier on us. 315 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,640 Right now we just wonder, what happened, what happened? 316 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,640 I can see her in front of me. 317 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,640 I hear her laughter, the fun we had. 318 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,640 I, you know, I still find it hard to believe she's not there. 319 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,640 Is it possible that Cindy James had descended so far into mental illness 320 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,640 that she could inflict terrible pain on herself, 321 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,640 up to and including the point of death? 322 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,640 Cindy's friends and family are convinced it is not possible. 323 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,640 They believe there is someone in Vancouver, Canada, 324 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,640 who is getting away with murder. 325 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,640 December 29th, 1980. 326 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,640 State Road, 1485 on the outskirts of Houston, Texas. 327 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,640 At around 9 p.m., Betty Cash, Bickey Lambroum, 328 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:32,640 and Bickey's 7-year-old grandson, Colby, were returning home after dinner. 329 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,640 Mama, what's that light? 330 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,640 What is that light? 331 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,640 I don't know, it's off a bright, is that an airframe? 332 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:45,640 We were just driving along, talking, and all of a sudden we seen this bright light. 333 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,640 We didn't know what it was, 334 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,640 but we knew that there was something that was lighting up the sky. 335 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,640 It seems to be moving closer. 336 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,640 I think you're right, Bickey, here. 337 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,640 You could see it through the trees, you know, you'd lose it, and then you'd see it. 338 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,640 You'd lose it and you'd see it. 339 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,640 And we traveled about close to a mile, I guess, 340 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,640 when it was, got, started to get real close. 341 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,640 Then I knew it wasn't a plane. 342 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,640 Mama, what are you doing? 343 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,640 I don't know, I don't know, but I can promise you the truth. 344 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:29,640 We had began to feel the heat, and all of a sudden, Bickey screamed for me to stop. 345 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:39,640 And when I stopped, she went forward, and her handprint was embedded into the dash of the car. 346 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,640 And I thought, well, I've got to see what this is. 347 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:55,640 So I walked toward the front of the automobile, and I stood there looking up to try to figure out what this object was. 348 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:08,640 It was a diamond shaped object, four points, but the one at the top was rounded, and so were the sides. 349 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,640 Then at the bottom, flames were shooting out. 350 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,640 The heat was tremendous. 351 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,640 It just felt like I was burning from the inside out. 352 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,640 Betty, let's get out of here! 353 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,640 I was horrified. 354 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,640 I was actually afraid, really, to move. 355 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:43,640 When I reached for the door handle, the door handle was so hot, I couldn't even begin to hold on to it. 356 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,640 I was more than scared. 357 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,640 It's moving away! 358 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:57,640 The only thing I was thinking was, are we going to get out of here alive? 359 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:06,640 Just moments later, a large squadron of helicopters descended on the air. 360 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:13,640 They were the large helicopters that had the double roguery on them. 361 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:21,640 I counted twenty-two, and Kobe said there's another one, and I said that makes twenty-three. 362 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:29,640 They were the kind of helicopters that you just don't see, because I didn't know what kind they were. 363 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,640 I knew I had to belong to the army. 364 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:50,640 Betty Cash and Vicki Landrum had no idea that the events of that night would plague them the rest of their lives. 365 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:56,640 Given the evidence, it seems little doubt that something incredible happened to Betty, Vicki and Kobe. 366 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,640 Something that no one has been able to explain. 367 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,640 For more than ten years, they've been embroiled in both a legal battle with the United States government, 368 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:12,640 and a desperate fight against mysterious illnesses, whose symptoms began to appear just six hours after the bizarre encounter. 369 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,640 Mama, I need a drink of water! 370 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,640 Mama! 371 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,640 Kobe? 372 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,640 Mama, I'm sick. 373 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,640 At one o'clock, Kobe woke me up crying, and he was begging me for water. 374 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,640 Honey, you're burning up. 375 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,640 He had a fever, and he had vomited all over the bed. 376 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,640 I need some more water. 377 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,640 I'll get you some right away. 378 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,640 While I was saying to him, I got sick. 379 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:51,640 Finally though, I got him back to sleep, and I went to sleep, and the next morning, 380 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,640 I didn't dream that we had been hurt. 381 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,640 When I got up, him and me both was yet sick. 382 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:07,640 The next morning, Vicki and Kobe were still suffering from nausea, and what appeared to be severe cases of sunburn. 383 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,640 Betty? 384 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,640 Betty, it's Vicki! 385 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,640 Concerned, Vicki went to Betty's house to check on her well-being. 386 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,640 Betty? 387 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,640 Vicki was shocked by Betty's condition. 388 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:30,640 Her temperature was dangerously high, and large red welts had appeared on her face and hands. 389 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,640 Oh, what you want? You want some water? 390 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,640 I was so sick. 391 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,640 All I wanted was water. 392 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,640 My head was killing me. 393 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,640 I could not get rid of the headache. 394 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,640 I had an upset stomach. 395 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,640 Just... 396 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,640 I was just sick. 397 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,640 I mean, completely. 398 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,640 Hi, Betty. 399 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,640 Over the next four days, Betty's condition grew more serious. 400 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,640 How long has she been this way? 401 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,640 Vicki finally convinced her to see a doctor in Houston. 402 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,640 He immediately admitted Betty to Parkway Hospital. 403 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,640 No. 404 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:20,640 Records show that three weeks later, she underwent treatment for acute radiation poisoning. 405 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,640 What I'd like to do is admit her to the hospital and run some more tests. 406 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:30,640 During a six-week hospitalization, Betty lost more than 50% of her hair and patches of skin on her face. 407 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,640 There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that Betty was exposed to high doses of radiation. 408 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,640 As to what the source was, I can't exactly say. 409 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,640 Dr. Brian McClelland has been Betty's physician since 1985. 410 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,640 All I know is that she received high doses of radiation. 411 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,640 After her release, Betty continued to suffer side effects. 412 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,640 Extreme swelling of her face and arms, painful headaches and a dramatic loss of appetite. 413 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:07,640 Vicki and Colby had similar symptoms. However, their conditions were less severe than Betty's. 414 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,640 Betty Cash called me approximately six weeks after she got out of the hospital. 415 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,640 Her case was very unusual. It was intriguing. 416 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:23,640 It had situations involved that I hadn't heard about in the Texas area before, so I naturally became involved. 417 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:32,640 John Schusler is an executive for a major aeronautics engineering firm and is a deputy director of the Mutual UFO Network. 418 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:40,640 We had done several interviews with Betty and Vicki, and then we went out to the location of where this happened. 419 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,640 They were very, very clear on where it happened and how it happened. 420 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,640 Yes, sir. Came right over those trees, right there, sir. 421 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:54,640 They were able to tell us exactly where along the road that they stopped because there were certain markers that identified the spot. 422 00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:00,640 They were able to point out exactly what they saw, the object coming down out of the sky over the road and hovering there. 423 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:08,640 They were able to point out a spot on the road that indicated that it had been heated to an extreme level of heating. 424 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,640 It was burned and it was very clear to the naked eye. 425 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:22,640 Several weeks after we went to the spot and saw this burned area, someone came along, dug up the road and hauled it away and replaced it with new asphalt. 426 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:32,640 Some of the witnesses that watched this happen said that people brought in unmarked trucks, dug up the road, put the material on the trucks, covered it with a tarpaulin and drove away. 427 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,640 And what did it do when it hovered over the trees? 428 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:42,640 In addition to taking Betty and Vicki's testimony, we went to every individual living within five miles of this area. 429 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,640 At least ten other people had seen the object and seven or eight other people had seen the helicopters. 430 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,640 And the descriptions were all very similar to what Betty and Vicki described. 431 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,640 One eyewitness was Dayton, Texas police officer L. L. Walker. 432 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,640 Walker was in the area on the night that Betty and Vicki encountered the object. 433 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,640 A wife, Marie and I, was returning back from our mother and dads. 434 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,640 And as we was coming out of some tree lines, I saw a helicopter. 435 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,640 It was shining the spotlight at the ground. 436 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,640 And then I heard other noise of other helicopters behind it. 437 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:28,640 And about that time a helicopter started side slipping towards us with a beam hitting me in the eyes. 438 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,640 And I stopped the car because I didn't know what was going on. 439 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,640 The helicopters were military. 440 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,640 They was all flying fairly low to the ground. 441 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,640 And all of them had search beams on. 442 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,640 I thought maybe there was an airplane down, but they didn't hesitate. 443 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:56,640 They just kept on in the same direction they was going, which would probably intersect the area where Vicki said that her encounter was. 444 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,640 They was headed in that general direction. 445 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:09,640 Convinced that the military was somehow involved, Betty and Vicki wrote to Texas Senators John Tower and Lloyd Benson. 446 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:19,640 Senator Lloyd Benson and Senator Tower had sent us the reply back that Berkstrom Air Force Base had been notified. 447 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,640 And that they had been made well aware of what had happened to us. 448 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,640 That they would be more than glad to help us in any way. 449 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:40,640 On August 21st, 1981, Betty, Vicki and Colby arrived at Berkstrom, expecting to receive medical help they brought overnight bags. 450 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,640 Colby, honey, come on. 451 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,640 As they entered the room, Vicki noticed a large map. 452 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,640 The exact spot where the encounter had occurred was clearly marked. 453 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,640 I understand you hear about an incident that occurred on 29 December 1980. 454 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Can you tell us what happened? 455 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:03,640 Well, so we were coming home from dinner and as we were going down this road, we saw this large object. 456 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,640 According to Betty and Vicki, they were questioned for more than two hours. 457 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,640 The interview was recorded by a military stenographer. 458 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,640 It was as big as a water tower and it was kind of diamond shaped. 459 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,640 What did you do after you spot these? 460 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,640 It was a deposition they were taking from each one of us. 461 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,640 Just general of everything that had happened to us. 462 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,640 And we were still blistered and had blisters on us. 463 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:35,640 And at the time I was wearing a wig because my hair had already gone. 464 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,640 They wanted me to take my wig off so they could see my head. 465 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640 About how long a period of time was this? 466 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,640 10 or 12 minutes. 467 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,640 Then what happened? 468 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,640 Well, as I got in the car, then the helicopter started approaching. 469 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,640 What helicopters? 470 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,640 The military helicopters. 471 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,640 You say military? 472 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,640 Yes. 473 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,640 How do you know they were military? 474 00:29:54,640 --> 00:30:01,640 The two interviewers denied that any military or government operation was conducted on December 29, 1980. 475 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Ladies, what would you like for us to do? 476 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,640 We want help. We're sick. 477 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,640 What do you want the Air Force to do? 478 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,640 I feel you're partly responsible and I would like some help. 479 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:18,640 None of the information that I have here indicates that the Air Force nor the government is responsible for any of the claims that you've made. 480 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,640 The women were told that they were entitled to file a claim that the Air Force would review the case. 481 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,640 Get them to your lawyers and get them back to us. 482 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:33,640 Four weeks later, Betty and Vicki's claim for medical damages was denied. 483 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,640 Come on, Colby. 484 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:41,640 In 1982, Betty and Vicki filed a lawsuit against the United States government. 485 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:47,640 The case was dismissed by a federal judge for lack of evidence. 486 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,640 I thought there was no justice left in the United States at all. 487 00:30:51,640 --> 00:31:05,640 And to think that we had a federal judge that would not even give us a chance to speak up or to be heard. 488 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:15,640 What did Betty Cash, Vicki Lambroum and Colby Lambroum see in the Texas sky on that winter night over ten years ago? 489 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,640 There are two possible explanations in this case. 490 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,640 One is that with experimental crafts of some kind by probably our government. 491 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:28,640 The other, it was an unidentified flying object, possibly extraterrestrial. 492 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,640 I don't believe in the little green man. 493 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:44,640 And it had to be an object that could have been a spacecraft that the government was carrying, but our government was carrying it. 494 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:53,640 Today, Betty Cash, Vicki Lambroum and Colby Lambroum continue to battle illnesses which they believe are a result of massive radiation exposure. 495 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,640 Betty has been diagnosed with several types of cancer. 496 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,640 She, Vicki and Colby all have far below normal white blood cell counts. 497 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:07,640 Their immune systems now have difficulty fighting off even minor infections. 498 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:18,640 The child especially, he's going to have to make decisions about having children, about what he's going to do with his life and how long is he going to live, what's going to happen to him. 499 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,640 For Betty, she's just entering into the risk period for other cancers or other problems and Vicki is too. 500 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:33,640 Vicki's having visual problems and there are lots of suggestions that that may be related to radiation as well, but depends on the kind of exposure. 501 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,640 And someone needs to tell us what the exposure was so we can figure it out. 502 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:46,640 If it's a top secret object that's protecting the United States, then I could say I could forgive them for that. 503 00:32:46,640 --> 00:33:00,640 But at least they owe us to tell us exactly why we were burned and what type of radiation that we were exposed to and how much. 504 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,640 The United States Air Force declined our invitation to be interviewed for this story. 505 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Their official position is that no military or government operation occurred near Dayton, Texas on December 29th, 1980. 506 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,640 Betty Cash and Vicki Landrum disagree. 507 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:25,640 They believe that the military knows exactly what happened that night and hope that someone will come forward with information. 508 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:46,640 When we return, a legend of Wild West Outlaws butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, did they really die in a shootout in South America? 509 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:59,640 Meet Robert Leroy Parker and Harry Alonzo Longabao. 510 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:06,640 In the late 1800s, these two men became outlaw legends as Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. 511 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:17,640 Decades later, they were immortalized in a movie about their lives starring Paul Newman and Robert Redford. 512 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:25,640 In 1969, fact-based film chronicles the adventurous final days of the famed outlaw. 513 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:37,640 The movie like history has Butch and Sundance meeting their demise in a fiery gun battle in South America. 514 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:46,640 But some experts believe that Hollywood and history may be wrong. 515 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:56,640 Some say that Jesse James sang at his own funeral and fled to South America. 516 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:02,640 The Billy the Kid was not gunned down by Pat Garrett and lived to the ripe old age of 92. 517 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:08,640 The folklore of the American West is full of stories of famous outlaws who somehow outlived their own deaths. 518 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:19,640 But in the case of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, there is compelling evidence that at least one of the infamous criminals returned to the United States and died of natural causes. 519 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:34,640 Spokane, Washington, 1910. Two years after Butch and Sundance were reportedly gunned down, a mysterious man named William Thaddeus Phillips arrived in Spokane. 520 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:43,640 Phillips eventually opened a machine shop which became a success, earning him the reputation as a prominent businessman. 521 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,640 But oddly, William Phillips was a man without a past. 522 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:58,640 The first definitive record of William Phillips was his marriage certificate dated May 14, 1908. 523 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,640 There is no other previous record of William Phillips. 524 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:10,640 In the 1920s, about 1922, the first reports began circulating in the West that Butch Cassidy had returned. 525 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,640 People began to say that Butch Cassidy was William Phillips. 526 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:21,640 There does indeed seem to be an eerie resemblance between William Thaddeus Phillips and George Butch Cassidy. 527 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,640 But if Phillips was Cassidy, then how did the outlaws escape from Bolivia? 528 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:41,640 According to some historians, the story of Butch and Sundance's demise in Bolivia has been attributed to one man, Percy Sebert. 529 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:53,640 Sebert had worked with the outlaws at a tin mine in Bolivia and had become friends with them. 530 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,640 He allegedly identified them as the two men killed in the shootout. 531 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:14,640 I believe that Percy told the story of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kids' death in Bolivia to pay back what he felt was a debt of loyalty and friendship. 532 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:21,640 To allow these outlaws to begin a life under amnesty without a past. 533 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,640 To bury the legend of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid forever. 534 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:37,640 Larry Pointer is convinced that Butch Cassidy assumed the identity of William Phillips, and that as Phillips he even returned to the mountains of Wyoming, 535 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,640 the same territory that Butch Cassidy and his outlaw gang had once roamed. 536 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,640 We know the man who went with Phillips to Wyoming in 1933. 537 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,640 This man died recently, but we have interviewed him. 538 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:58,640 He was there all summer with Phillips, and he met all the old timers that Phillips met. 539 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,640 And in almost every case, these old timers accepted Phillips as Cassidy. 540 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:09,640 Well, old timer stories are always the most interesting and the least reliable. 541 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,640 Author Dan Buck has researched the life and death of Butch Cassidy. 542 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,640 He is convinced that William Phillips was merely an imposter. 543 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,640 The William Phillips story is chock full of old timer tales. 544 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,640 People had claimed they were good friends with Cassidy and knew Phillips was Cassidy. 545 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,640 And usually it's when asked by someone, when prompted by someone, 546 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,640 well, you were a good friend of Butch Cassidy's, weren't you? 547 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,640 And of course the answer is yes. Who wants to say no? 548 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,640 In Wyoming, Phillips arranged to meet a woman named Mary Boyd Rhodes. 549 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,640 In 1934, Mary and her 16-year-old granddaughter, Ion, 550 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,640 rode out to Phillips campsite in the Wind River Mountains. 551 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,640 The man that my grandmother met that day was going by the name of William Phillips. 552 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,640 And she knew him by the name of Lee Roy George Parker, 553 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,640 who is known as Butch Cassidy. 554 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,640 Mary Boyd. 555 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,640 He recognized Kerry immediately and she recognized him. 556 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,640 George Parker. 557 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,640 I sensed that they had a relationship that I had never known much about. 558 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,640 So my grandmother had finally told me that he was her childhood sweetheart. 559 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,640 I don't see Mary before. She married them. 560 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,640 Three years after his meeting with Mary Boyd Rhodes in Wyoming, 561 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,640 William Phillips died of cancer. 562 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,640 But shortly before his death, Phillips mailed this ring to Mary. 563 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,640 It was engraved, George C. Mary B. 564 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,640 I believe William Phillips pretended to be Butch Cassidy because he was having fun. 565 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,640 He traveled out to the west. He met some people. 566 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,640 He probably got some free beers. He certainly got a lot of adventures out of it. 567 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,640 He definitely looked like Butch Cassidy. 568 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:16,640 But some people have recently done some photo comparisons of the two and established that they have different heads and different faces. 569 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,640 Cassidy basically had small features on a big head with a lantern jaw. 570 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,640 And Phillips had more normal features with a more or less pointed chin. 571 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:32,640 And his head was basically an inch or more lower than Butch Cassidy's. 572 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,640 Several other clues, however, suggest that Butch and Phillips were one and the same man. 573 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,640 William Phillips wrote an unpublished manuscript entitled The Bandit Invincible, 574 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,640 the story of Butch Cassidy. 575 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,640 It contains specific details about Cassidy's outlaw adventures. 576 00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,640 Well, there's material in that manuscript that no one else knew that had never been published. 577 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:08,640 Either the man who wrote it had to have intimate knowledge of Cassidy, or he was Cassidy. 578 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:16,640 Phillips owned a six-shot cointre revolver, carved into the pistol's grip as a unique brand. 579 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:23,640 That brand was the Reverse E-Box E. To most people in Spokane, that would be meaningless. 580 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:30,640 But to a researcher from Wyoming, that was exciting because that was Butch Cassidy's brand in the 1890s. 581 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:37,640 Another piece of evidence that seems to connect the two men is their handwriting. 582 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:47,640 Unsolved mysteries contacted certified graphologists Sheila Lowe, who has been used as an expert witness by the California Judicial Court System. 583 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:54,640 Sheila compared five handwritten letters, four penned by Butch Cassidy, the other written by William Phillips. 584 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,640 She concluded that all five letters were written by the same man. 585 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:06,640 I found that some of the letter forms were identical, and especially when I laid one transparency over the other, 586 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,640 they were, it was as if they were written at the same moment. They were so similar. 587 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:27,640 I believe that without doubt, the man known to Wyoming residents in the 1890s as George Butch Cassidy was William T. Phillips, who died in Spokane in 1937. 588 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:36,640 Was William Phillips indeed Butch Cassidy? If so, then what became of his fame partner, the Sundance Kid? 589 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,640 There are some who believe that he too returned to the U.S. and died of old age. 590 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:54,640 There is perhaps little chance that this mystery will ever be solved, but one thing is certain. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid were legends. 591 00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,640 Destin and Liv long passed their own deaths, regardless of when or where that may have been. 592 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:08,640 Next, a woman's heart-wombing search for the brothers and sisters she hasn't seen in more than 20 years. 593 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,640 Lakewood, Colorado, 1960. 594 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:32,640 Another day begins for the Smith family. Once again, five-year-old Alitha is left alone to care for her younger brothers and sister. 595 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:39,640 Wake up, Alitha. We're hungry. Is mommy and daddy home? Nope. 596 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:51,640 We'd wake up in the morning and be alone. And Richard and I would go in and get Marty and Noreen out of bed. 597 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:57,640 Richard was four. Marty was around three, and Noreen was just about two. 598 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,640 Sometimes she'd halfway fall, but we got her out. 599 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:12,640 Go in the kitchen, get the bread out, and put it in the toaster. Put peanut butter on it. Oh, that was breakfast. 600 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,640 Marty, stop sucking his thumb. 601 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:30,640 I remember giving Noreen bottles. I remember asking Marty to stop sucking his thumb. It was empty. We were afraid. I know I was. 602 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:40,640 Alitha's Smith parents were married as teenagers, still unprepared for the challenges of raising a family. 603 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:50,640 Sadly, both were often absent from the home. Five-year-old Alitha assumed the role of mother, father, and protector for her brothers Richard and Marty and her sister Noreen. 604 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,640 When their parents separated, the children were placed in the state's foster care system. 605 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:10,640 July 1960. The Smith children went to live with foster parents, Frank and Mary Ann Wiley. For the first time, they knew the comfort and security of a stable home. 606 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,640 Hi, guys. 607 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,640 This is Noreen and Alitha. 608 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:27,640 They were cute little kids. A little Noreen, you know, just a baby. Marty was a mild-mannered. Richard was a little more of a free spirit. 609 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:35,640 And Alitha was just a sweet little girl. They were nice little kids to have. 610 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,640 Let's go. We got a food. 611 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:46,640 The Wiley's small farm opened up a whole new world for the children, particularly Alitha, who got her first real taste of childhood. 612 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,640 We played a lot outdoors. They had farm animals. You'd feed them or gather eggs. 613 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,640 Good job. 614 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:13,640 Living at the Wiley's was warm and caring. She took care of the males in the clothes. And that felt good and secure. 615 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,640 Right up there? 616 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,640 Right up here? 617 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,640 Okay. 618 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,640 Hello. 619 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,640 In December 1962, the dream ended. 620 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,640 Yes? 621 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,640 Alitha's father had arranged to take the children back for Christmas. 622 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,640 I really don't think this is a very good time for the kids to have to go with you. 623 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,640 I told them, or that I felt that they should be able to have their Christmas where they had it planned. 624 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,640 That disrupting them at that point was going to be difficult for them. 625 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:52,640 And so they did agree to let us have our Christmas morning and our Christmas dinner, and then they would come after that and take the children over there, which they did. 626 00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:02,640 Regrettably, the children found life with their father unchanged. Alitha was once again left to care for her brothers and sister. 627 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,640 But the situation did not go unnoticed. 628 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,640 Hi, honey. 629 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,640 Hi. 630 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,640 Is your mommy home? 631 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,640 No. 632 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,640 How about your daddy? 633 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,640 Concerned neighbors had alerted the police to the dilemma of the Smith children. 634 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,640 They were once again taken from their home and returned to the foster care system. 635 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,640 Eventually, the children were placed with separate families and lost touch with one another. 636 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,640 Alitha was shuttled from foster home to foster home. 637 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,640 Until four years later, she was sent back to live with the Wiley. 638 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,640 I remember it, like it was yesterday. 639 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:52,640 I received a phone call from social services and she asked me if I remembered Alitha Smith. 640 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,640 And I said, I sure do. 641 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,640 And she said, how would you like to have her back? 642 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,640 And I said, yes. 643 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,640 In a matter of 40 minutes, she was walking in the front door. 644 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:13,640 But it took her a while to loosen up and it was, you know, I think I expected her to be all warm and wonderful. 645 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,640 And she had had a lot of bad times and it was going to take a while. 646 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,640 Alitha's years in foster care had left her a bitter, temperamental adolescent. 647 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,640 She'd longed to find her natural parents and eventually ran away from the Wiley. 648 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:40,640 I had saved my allowances and I got, I believe it's $21. 649 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,640 My plan was to go to Oklahoma. 650 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,640 I was going to go to the Wiley. 651 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,640 I had a plan for $21. 652 00:48:52,640 --> 00:49:00,640 My plan was to go to Oklahoma, San Springs, Oklahoma, to find my parents. 653 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,640 I had an idea that my grandmother would live there. 654 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:16,640 With my allowance money, I bought my ticket for the bus trip to Oklahoma. 655 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:24,640 I remember while I was riding along, flashing back on memories of when I was little. 656 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:29,640 And that's all I thought about was getting there. 657 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,640 Alitha journeyed more than 600 miles to San Springs, Oklahoma. 658 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,640 Alone, with nowhere else to turn, she sought refuge in a local church. 659 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,640 I went to a church and talked to a minister. 660 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:58,640 He agreed to take me around and we drive to try to find this farm that I remembered. 661 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,640 Do you remember what the house looked like? 662 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,640 I think it was white or gray. 663 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,640 White or gray. Anything else? 664 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,640 Alitha and the minister spent several hours searching for her grandmother's farm. 665 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,640 To no avail. 666 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,640 Late that afternoon, he dropped Alitha off at the local police station. 667 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:25,640 They identified her as a runaway and returned her to the foster care system once again. 668 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,640 It would be years before Alitha was reunited with her natural parents. 669 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,640 She never did find her brothers, Richard and Marty, or her sister Nori. 670 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,640 It's like reading a good book. 671 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,640 And you get a phone call, you have to rush off to work. 672 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,640 You have to put that book down. 673 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,640 Most people know they can come back to that book. 674 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,640 I've never gone back. Now I want to know. 675 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,640 I want to know. 676 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:25,640 On the next Unsolved Mysteries, in 1987 Michael Frankie was hired to reform the prison system in Oregon. 677 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,640 Two years later, he was found stabbed to death just outside his office. 678 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,640 His family believes he was assassinated. 679 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,640 Chicago, the 1930s. 680 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:42,640 Elliott Ness, a 26-year-old treasury agent, organized the immortal crime-busting unit The Untouchables 681 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,640 and helped bring down the empire of Al Capone. 682 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,640 Later in Cleveland, Ohio, Elliott Ness finally encountered the one criminal he could not bring to justice. 683 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,640 A serial killer who may have left behind more than 30 victims. 684 00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:04,640 Join me next time for the special segment as we illuminate a side of Elliott Ness few people have ever known. 685 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,640 The Untouchables 686 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,640 .